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Card counting is a casino card game strategy used primarily in the blackjack family of casino Since PE is more important in single- and double-deck games, and BC is more important in shoe games, counting the ace is more important in.


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What are telltale signs of card counting at a casino table? to 2 hands and the running count was about 10 in a double deck with maybe a little.


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Card counting works in multi-deck games as well as single- and double-deck games. You don't have to have a photographic memory to be a card counter.


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Step 2. Keep a “Running Count” based off of the values of the card dealt; Step 3. Use this information to calculate the count per deck or “.


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If you know how to count cards, you can use the count to tell you how much to bet on each hand, but you can use the count to help you play each.


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Step 2. Keep a “Running Count” based off of the values of the card dealt; Step 3. Use this information to calculate the count per deck or “.


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Just make sure you shift everything, or you may end up making costly plays like doubling A9 v. There's info leaked here and there. Here's KO. Another thing in mind is I don't know if there's any material on KO with a sc. For double deck, playing efficiency is going to be way way more important than betting correlation. I try to flat bet for the most part because he gets intimated but honestly if I get backed off its not the end of the world. However since you're playing rated there's nooooo way they'll tolerate this action if you play unrated within a short time frame IMO , they choose to tolerate it for now. Originally Posted by xelemental. Isn't cborders your other account? Playing differently when the pit boss is watching is a sure sign that you want to hide. THanks so much for all of that wealth of information. Why do you post under 2 accounts? I know they use to offer a really good single deck game. Only 6 cards came out so not enough sample size. Originally Posted by bef99hwk. Coming from a poker background, I think it's really easy to underestimate the variance of blackjack as the variance in poker is so much lower and the winrate is so much higher compared to blackjack. If you've played poker before, you should know what that means theoretically and understand it's effects in practice. One thing I regret was not learning zen or hi-opt 2 after breathing hi-lo and hi-opt 1 for hundreds of hours. Are you playing rated or unrated?? PM with the rules of the game you're playing if you want me to send you the indices. Also, don't take this the wrong way, but it may be that they're tolerating your action because you failed the skills check. Appreciate all of the help. One of the Blacjack forums member stated: "KO is quite okay. For a counter, late surrender is more important than s It's probably online at wizardofodds somewhere. I dont have experience though. Don't take my word for it These are just my educated guess. I know this thread is pretty stale, but willyc offered to send the OP indices for the unbalanced zen II if he was interested. Perhaps game select heavily and just backcount shoe games with the rest of your time, since I don't expect the EV in that game to be high unless you spread more than the recommended amount for a DD. However I've never heard of a DD game with surrender there's probably only a few offered in the country assuming you're from the us and since late surrender is offered which is ridiculously good , I don't think there's a need to increase your bet size unless conditions tell you otherwise and that you can get away with it. WillyC offered to help earlier in the thread, but I don't appear to have PM privileges yet so I can't contact him directly. Originally Posted by Vand2. What matters most though, is that you're able to use whatever system you choose effectively. I don't know how the inside of this works. It seems to be the exact same thing unless im missing something. Lets say my IRC is at 0 and my key count is 5. Sometimes even more. Even just one hand is 12x spread. My only concern with that is if they tell venitian regarding my status which would suck because they love me over there and are constantly inviting me to BJ tournaments and free rooms. This actually sounds like a great game now especially since you're allowed to spread upto 2 hands and that there's late surrender offered. No way you spread that big at DD and dont get booted sometime in future Thats basically like a 24x spread? Wow thanks so much for all the useful information all. Good luck! It doesn't sound like a count popular enough for people to write materials on. I'm guessing this is barona. The first observation is surruptitious. Im trying to devise the best system for myself against the double deck game here at my local indian casino. But I think the casino so far enjoys the action because sometimes I lose big but for the most part, I win big. It's good to see people attempting this. My guess is KO with a sc of ace is probably doable and it'll significantly increase your PE , but that'll require research on your own part with probably programs like CVData. Unbalanced Zen is a great trade off between power and ease of use. I was trying to practice HiOpt2 and realized its definitely going to take some time. There's no point having a fancy count if you can't maintain it. No, unfortunately not.{/INSERTKEYS}{/PARAGRAPH} I'm no expert like z. I do play rated. Every casino and condition is different, and I'm not exactly too sure what yours is. Am I expected to lose from to possibly winning 9k? KO is nice because I never have to convert the true count. No sign of backoff yet. If I were to guess, s17 is more important for a non-counter since surrender becomes less and less important to a ploppy and can even become hazardous. I just couldn't get myself to dump all the intuition I've acquired from those counts and adjust to another count. The score on this game is sorta too good not for them to overprotect imo. Sorry im still new to all of this. It can be fun or frustrating, so I think it's always better to play considerably over-rolled rather than under-rolled. Here's an updated graph at 25 to 2x Last edited by tiger; at AM. I'm assuming you're spreading upto 2x since 2x is too big of a spread. It would be my first back off and that in itself is exciting. Listen to what the veteran posters have to say and take their words over mine, although my guess is they'll probably say the same thing btw, which forum is this? You've already had a skills check called by the time you're observably observed. If I were to guess, they probably have you flagged as a counter by now. {PARAGRAPH}{INSERTKEYS}Hey guys, After reading several blackjack forums on this question, I came to the decision on keeping my KO system for Double Deck. I will research the Opt Hi II with side count of aces. Starting at 0 and shifting your index numbers is exactly the same; lots of players struggle with negative numbers at least early on and do that. Likewise, move up to Level 2 systems when you've mastered Level 1. If you do you can produce them yourself. The pivot in an unbalanced system should match the most important decision you'll make - probably Wonging in or out if you do that, or the jump to max betting. I actually do 2 X bets. But your probably right, the pit boss at this casino here in CA indian resort loves to stand behind the dealer and just watch me. That's pretty damn good I also remember a poster by the name of KJ or Ke. You'll lose more in mistakes than you gain in EV if you haven't. I think as long as you're doing everything correctly and you continue to play noticed, you'll inevitably get the tap. Adding side counts should be done, well, on the side. Your choice of system will be in part dictated by how you play. They probably want to see if you're a potential whale or an ap. Can anyone help with this? Ill stick to KO for now. Here's Hilo. What I read is that Indian Casinos are trying to compete with Vegas so they offer a better game hence the late surrender. If I recall correctly, KO should perform similar to hilo if anything, just very slightly inferior. What you're concerned about is being flyered and that you're blacklisted in some type of system like osn or griffin if that still exists. Do it when you're so comfortable with KO that you have excess brainpower. I dont go to a blackjack forum but was reading the archieve BJ message board that you can no longer posts on. Remember, you're probably being watched all the time, so having the pit boss there is mostly to see how you react. Just going off of forum threads at another site.